>> OKAY, WE ARE ABOUT TO GET STARTED SO EVERYBODY MONEY IN AND SHUT UP. THE CROWD IS HUSHING. THE INTERPRETOR IS IN PLACE, MOVE OVER A LITTLE CLOSER TO ME SO YOU CAN HIT ME BECAUSE I TALK TOO FAST AND I FORGET AND I HAVE TIMES WHERE I GIVE PEOPLE PING PONG BALL TOSS SLOW ME DOWN BECAUSE I DON'T USUALLY TALK VERY SLOW: SO MY WAY, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF TECHNOLOGY ON THE COMMUNITY. THE THING WE HAVE TODAY DOES NOT IN INDICATE ANY OF THAT AND WE PROBABLY WILL NOT GET ANY OF THAT IN THE DEMONSTRATIONS. I WILL LET EACH OF OUR SPEAKERS AND DEMONSTRATORS IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. THAT WAY, WE CAN FIND OUT WHICH ONE OF THEM HAVE THE EGO PROBLEM. IF THEY SPEND MORE THAN 3 SENTENCES ON THEMSELVES, THEN THE HELL WITH THEM. WE GOT THREE REALLY GOOD PEOPLE IN A WILL GIVE YOU SOME REALLY GOOD DEMONSTRATIONS. ONE, WE WILL DO THESE DEMONSTRATIONS HERE ARE TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW. AT 5 O'CLOCK, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE BALLROOM AND GET A HANDS ON. WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO IS WITH THIS SESSION AND DEMONSTRATION, THEY WILL GIVE YOU THE QUESTIONS THEY NEED TO ASK PAUSE YOU KNOW THAT NEARLY EVERY SESSION I DEALT WITH TECHNOLOGY, I HAVE ABOUT SIX OR 7 QUESTIONS THAT I WISHED I HAD ASKED THEM. SO WE WILL HAVE TIME FOR YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS HERE IN THIS ROOM BUT THE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS ASPECT IS HANDS ON WITH THE MATERIALS THEY HAVE BROUGHT WITH THE EQUIPMENT AND SO FORTH. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET ON THE NET SO YOU WILL HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WORKED OUT WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE TODAY. I HATE IT WHEN WE GO SOME PLACE AND LEAVE WITH A BUNCH OF CONSUMERS WE ALREADY HAD. TODAY HOPEFULLY, YOU WILL LEAVE WITH THE ABILITY TO USE THE TERM. I THINK WE HAVE A VERY DEEP PROBLEM WITH THE DARK I HAD SIDE OF PARADIGM. THAT IS THE ABILITY TO PUT US BACK IN THE CLOSET. TELECOMMUTING IS A WONDERFUL THING, EVERY ONE LOVES IT BUT WHY MAKE YOUR LIBRARY ACCESSIBLE IF WE CAN GO ON THE NET. WHY MAKE YOUR OFFICE ACCESSIBLE WHEN THE PERSON CAN TELECOM MUTE. I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS OPEN THING THE SOCIETY WILL FORCE UPON UP US. QUITE OFTEN, WE WILL FORCE IT UPON OURSELVES. SO WHY GO IF YOU CAN STAY HOME. THAT'S THE WRONG ATTITUDE FOLKS BECAUSE WE GOT TO BE IN THE MAINSTREAM, SEEN IN THE MAINSTREAM, YOU GOT TO KNOW IT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OR WE WILL BE LOCKED OUT. I'M NOT SAYING SOCIETY WILL FORCE US BUT SOCIETY WILL REINFORCE US. IF WE SAY WE WANT TO STAY LOCKED UP IN OUR ROOM AND PLAY ON THE INTERNET LIKE ALL THOSE ABLE BODY NET WORDS DO, THEN, PAID WILL SAY, FINE, THEY ARE NOT GOING SAY, FINE, YOU SHOULD REALLY GET OUT MORE. I WOULD BE WILLING TO BET NO DISABLED PERSON WILL HEAR THAT TERM, YOU SHOULD GET OUT MORE. WE HAVE OBEY PART OF THE TAB BRICK OF SOCIETY OR WHAT IS WOVEN. SO HOPEFULLY, THESE DEMONSTRATIONS WILL ALLOW US TO USE THE POWER OF THE NET TO BECOME EVEN MORE PART OF THE COMMUNITY. YOU SAW THAT CARTOON ABOUT THEY DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE A DOG ON THE INTERNET. WELL, THEY DON'T KNOW WHO IS DISABLED. SO CONSEQUENCE, PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN HAVE NET WORDS TOO AND PEOPLE WHO SPEND 12 HOUR AS DEAL IN VIRTUAL REALITY BUT REALIZE WITHOUT A DISABILITY, THEY WOULD STILL BE DOING THAT. SO CONSEQUENCE, IT IS NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE PEOPLE. WE CAN LIE, CHEAT, STEAL AND BE NET WORDS TOO SO CONSEQUENCE, WITH YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT. PEOPLE WHO IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE A DISABILITY, THEY WOULD HAVE NOTHING AND WORRIED ABOUT KIDS GETTING ADDICTED TO DRUGS OR GETTING PREGNANT JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. BUT WITH A DISABILITY, THEY CAN LAME THAT ON EVERYTHING. I WOULD BE MAKING MONEY AT DISNEY. I'M SICK AND TIRED OF BEING BLIND. I THINK TOM CRUISE NEXT ROLE IS AND REMEMBER, COMING HOME WITH JOHN PLAYING THE PART OF WHEELCHAIR USER? I REMEMBER GUYING GETTING IN WHEELCHAIRS SO WOMEN WOULD BUY THEM DRINKS. >> I MEAN, COME ON, THE POWER OF MEDIA IS A LITTLE TOO MUCH HERE. I SAW SCENT OF A WOMAN. THAT GUY WAS SUCH A CREEP, I KEPT HOPING HE WOULD WRECK THAT CAR AND GO THROUGH THE WINDSHIELD. HE WAS A WORST CREEP AFTER HE WAS BLIND. WELL, HE WAS A CREEP AND I WISH HE HAD PLAY HEAD DULL AMPUTEE. BUT THAT'S THE WAY THE AMPUTEE. WE GOT TO BEAR IN MIND THAT WE HAVE SOME DIFFICULT ISSUES THAT AFFECT THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF THEM IS AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, IN OCTOBER, I HAVE A BOOK COMING OUT CALL "ACCESS BY DESIGN" AN ATTEMPT TO LOOK AT CONSUME ARE PRODUCTS THAT GO TOWARD THE GOAL OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE EVER UNIVERSAL DESIGNED UNLESS WE ARE ALL CLONED FROM THE SAME PERSON. THIS PLANET IS MADE UP OF A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. THAT DIVERSITY IS BEAUTIFUL AND CREATE THINK AND WE CAN USE THE POWER AND FORCE OF IT. BUT, THERE ARE A LOT OF MANUFACTURERS OUT THERE WHO JUST DO NOT LIKE US. THEY ARE AFRAID OF US, DON'T KNOW US. TO GULF YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THIS BOOK, WE PICK I HAD UP VARIOUS CONSUMER ITEM OF THINGS PART OF IT ---NONE OF THOSE ARE PERFECT EXAMPLES, BUT THEY HAVE CERTAIN ASPECTS. I WILL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE, THE CAMERA I USE LIKE A PAIR OF GLASSES, I CARRY WITH ME ALL THE TIME, THE JAPANESE BUILT THE BODY, AND ON THE BACK OF IT, WHEN I PUSH THE BUTTON HALF WAY DOWN, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING CAN SEE IT, A RED AND GREEN LIGHT COME ON, THE RED LIGHT TELLS ME THAT THE BATTERY IS UP AND THE STROBE IS READY TO FIRE. THE GREEN LIGHT TELLSS ME THAT IT IS INFO CUSS. THESE TWO ARE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE CAMERA RIGHT NEXT TO THE VIEW FINDER WHERE YOU PUT YOUR EYE. I HAD ALMOST NO EYESIGHT. I GOT LESS THAN FIELD VISION OF ABOUT 3%, VISION OF LESS THAN 2800. SO I DON'T SEE VERY WELL, BUT I CAN SEE THAT RED AND GLEAN LIGHT. THEY DIDN'T DESIGN IT FOR ME. WE PICKED PRODUCTS NOT DESIGNED FOR BUT CERTAIN ASPECTS OF OUR ENVIRONMENT CAN USE. LOOK AT THE OVERALL MARKET FROM 8 TO 80. LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE SLIGHTLY LESS THAN PERFECT VISION LIKE THE BABY BOOMERS. AND DESIGN YOUR PRODUCTS TO MAKE A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF USE AGE. WE NEVER USE THE TERM ACCESSIBILITY BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN TIED IN WITH DISABLED. WHEN WE FIRST PUT OUT A CALL ON MANUFACTURERS IN THIS COUNTRY, THEY PUT OUT 400 FAXES. WE RECEIVED RESPONSES FROM LESS THAN A DOZEN. THESE WERE MANUFACTURERS WHO WERE ASKED TO SEE GLOSSY PHOTOGRAPHS, SENT SPECS ON THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF PRODUCTS THAT YOU HAVE. 12 OUT OF 400. ONE COMPANY AND WE MADE IT VERY CLEAR, THIS IS GOING TO BE TOWARD TO CONCEPT OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN, LOOKING AT PRODUCT US THAT AFFECT THE VERY WRONG, OLD, PEOPLE IN BETWEEN AND DISABLED. YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID DISABLED. THAT'S WHY THEY DIDN'T RESPOND. ONE COMPANY TOLD US, THAT WAS A -- I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHO IT IS BUT MAKE WE CAN CONVERT THEM. BUT THE WHOLE POINT IS THESE PEOPLE WERE AFRAID OF DISABILITY. WE HAVE OVER 300 CONSUMER ITEMS ON THE BOOK. IT TOOK FROM 2 TO 12 PHONE CALLS TO MAKE THOSE COMPANIES RELEASE THE GLOSSY AND PRINTED MATERIAL ON THE PARTICULAR THING. NOW, THE ASIANS AND EUROPEANS RESPONDED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AND ALMOST 100% BECAUSE THEY SAW IT WAS A MARKET, SAW US AS GOING OTHER THE GLOBAL MARKET. WE WILL BE A THIRD WORLD MANUFACTURERING COMPANY, AND NOTHING TO DO WITH DISABILITY BUT DUE TO THE FACT WE HAVE -- OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY HAS THE CREATIVE ABILITY GARDEN SELECTS. THEY CAN'T DEAL WITH GLOBAL COMPETITION. HOW WILL THEY DEAL WITH DISDISABILITYISHS. THE DARK SIDE, PUT CAN US BACK IN THE CLOSET, TRYING TO GET TO THESE PEOPLE FROM A DON CEMENT ABLE STAGE, IF WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS, CONCEPT OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN THE THE CONCEPTUAL STAGE OF THE TRUE, IT'S VERY HUT THOUGHT AT THE BEGINNING, IT WILL COST MORE AND MORE LIKELY, WE WILL NEVER BE INCLUDED. SO WE GOT TO GET IN ON THE GROUNDWORK. THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GET TO THE YOUNG DESIGNERS. THAT'S WHY I SPOKE WITH THE DESIGNER GROUP ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, YOU DON'T TALK TO MANY DISABLED GROUPS. HELL, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU. IT IS TOO LATE FOR HAVE YOU ANY WAY. MY IDEA IS TO HANG THE DESIGNERS AND IF WE CAN, CHANGE THE ARCHITECTS. I ONCE TOLD THIS TO A GROUP OF DESIGNERS AND THEY SAID, LOOK GEORGE, WE CAN MAKE INTERIORS ACCESSIBLE. WE CAN THE GET A ROOM, REDO IT, THAT'S NO PROBE PROBLEM. BUT THIS ARE STILL BUILDING THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE. WHAT DO WITH WE DO TO GIVE THEM A CHANGE. I SAID, WELL, YOU TAKE A STONE AND YOU PUT A PERSON UP THERE, I WOULD SUGGEST AN OLD MAN THAT LOOKS LIKE I AM PAID ARCHITECT AND WITH A STONE KNIFE, CUT OUT HIS HEART AND SHOW TO THE YOUNG ARCHITECTSMENT MAYBE THEY WILL GET THE IDEA. FROM THE BACK OF ROOM COMES THIS VOICE, WHY NOT GET SOMEONE WHO LOOKS LIKE HIM? ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL GLASS BILLINGS WE CAN'T GET INTO BUT THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT. WE GOT THREE DISTINGUISHED INDIVIDUALS. LY LET THEM TELL YOU INTRODUCE THEMSELVES BY FULL NAME, TITLE, RANK, SERIAL SNUB AND TELL YOU WHAT THEY NEED TO TELL YOU. LARRY, USE YOU LIKE THE TAKE IT AWAY FIRST. >> LARRY: THREE THINGS BEFORE WE START, SPEAK INTO THE MIKE, SPEAK SLOWLY AND CLEARLY SO YOUR MOTHER WOULD UNDERSTAND IT. >> GEORGE JUST DID. >> TACKY, TACKY. >> INTRODUCE YOURSELF, NORTHBOUND NUMBER ONE, REMEMBER, I LOST, MY MIND IS ABOUT AS GOOD AS HIGH EYESIGHT. SEVERAL OF YOU COMMITTED ON ALREADY. SOLAR RE, WOULD YOU START S. >> LARRY: CERTAINLY, I THINK HE GETS OUT TOO MUCH. >> ABLE BODYED PERSON. >> TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE. I'M LARRY GOLDBERG DIRECTOR OF THE C P BW G B H NATIONAL CENTER FOR ACCESSIBLE MEDIA WHICH IS A DIVISION OF PUBLIC BROADCASTINGING COMPANY UP UNBOSTON. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THE FIELD OF MEDIA ACCESS SINCE 1972 BEGINING CAPTIONING TV SHOWS FOR DEAF AND HARD OF HEARING PEOPLE AND MID-80'S, EXPERIMENTING WITH DESCRIBING SHOWS NOR BLIND PEOPLE. IN 1993, WE SET IN A DECISION OF CALLED THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR ACCESSIBLE MEDIA WITH THE HELP OF BROADCAST TOGETHER TAKE THESE KIP OF EFFORTS INTO THE FUTURE OF MEDIA AND TO THE INTERNET AND CD ROMS DIGITAL NEWSPAPER THAT IS TALK TO YOU AND ALL KINDS OF NEW TECHNOLOGY WHERE THEY CAN BE, LOWED TESTED FOR ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE SENSORY DISABILITY, LEARNING DISBILL THREE AND MOBILITY IMPAIRMENTS. TODAY, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IS SOME THINGS ABOUT THE WEB. I SEE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY, SOME PRETTY SOPHISTICATED PEOPLE, ALSO SOME PEOPLE WHO HEARD THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE. SO PLEASE BEER WITH US. MAYBE YOU TWO FOLKS WILL NOT BE REPEATING YOURSELF, BUT, WE WILL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT MAKES FOR ACCESSIBLE WEB SITE AND ALSO, WHAT MAKES FOR AND WHAT THE BENEFIT IS OF MAKING IT ACCESSIBLE WEB SITE, NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE BLIND OR DEAF BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT SOME OTHER SPECIAL TOOL TOSS WORK WITH. AND THEN, I WILL SHOW YOU A LITTLE AND OF DIGITAL CAPTIONING ON A DIGITAL MOVIE AND ALSO, SOME DESCRIPTION ON ONE. SO LET ME STEP OVER THE SEAT THAT GEORGE IS ON IN. >> ARE WE BEING PICKED UP OKAY BY THE VIRTUAL PEOPLE. DOES ANYBODY KNOW: ARE THEY STANDING CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE MIKES, DOES ANYBODY KNOW? >> ALL RIGHT, WHEN I LOOK OUT IN THE AUDIENCE, I CAN SEE THAT MANY OF YOU KNOW WHAT FULL WELL WHAT A SCREEN READER IS. WHO HAS NEVER ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED A SCREEN WRITER ARE THAT USED A SPEECH SYNTHESIZER. WHO HAS NOT EXPERIENCED THAT? GOOD AT LEAST A FEW PEOPLE WHO WILL SEE A FEW NEW THINGS TODAY. I'M USING A MACK TORCH POWER BOOK AND I'M USE MACINTOSH AND I'M USING NETSCAPE EXAMPLE I WILL SHOW YOU THE FIRST PATCH OF W G B H EDUCATIONAL HOME PAGE, DOES NOT LOOK VERY INTERESTING AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE I HAVE NOT ACTUALLY DOWN LEAD LOADED THINK GRAPHICS. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO SOMEONE SUFFERING WITH YOUR-DR. YOU'RING SO WHAT I HAVE IS THE WORD ACCESS STORE USER WITH DISABILITY IS HOW WE START OFF OUR HOME PAGE. AND THEN, WE HAVE A GRAPHIC. INSTEAD OF SEEING THE ACTUAL GRAPHIC, IT IS A LITTLE ICON THAT SITS IN PLACE OFAL GRAPHIC WHEN YOU'RE NOT USING IMAGES AND THEN A TEXT HEAD WHICH READS W G B H IMAGE MATCH WITH MINE SELECTION AND JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT IMAGE LOOKS LIKE I WILL NOW GO AHEAD AND DOWNLOAD IT. AND THERE'S OUR MILLION DOLLAR WEB PAGE GRAPHIC TO OPEN UP OUR WEB SITE WITH ALL KINDS OF COLORFUL ICONS AND SHADES REPRESENTING THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT YOU CAN GO TAP INTO ON WGBH. WHEN YOU HAVE AN IMAGE MAP LIKE THIS AND YOU'RE THE DIMMED OF PERSON WHO DOES NOT USE A MOUSE WHICH MOST BLIND PEOPLE DO NOT, AND AN IMAGE MAP WILL BE A VERY INACCESSIBLE THING TO YOU. IF YOU NOTICE HOWEVER IN IN THE LOW RIGHT HAND CORNER, HAS LINE THAT READS "TEXT VERSION OF THIS PAGE {YK} ". IF I GO AHEAD CLICK ON THAT, IT TURN NOOSE A LIST OF TEXT. SINCE I MENTIONED SCREEN READERS,LY GO AHEAD AND TURN ON MY MACINTOSH VERSION WHICH IS CALLED HEALTH SPOKEN FROM BERKLEY SYSTEMS. >> FIRST THING IT DOES IS TELL ME I'M IN THE WINDOW. I'M GOING TO NOW READ THIS PAGE. >> SIT ACTUALLY READING A LONG LIST OF COMMANDS YOU'RE NOT SEEING. >> USE KEYBOARD. >> BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE BLIND GUY. >> SOMEONE TAKE TALK AWAY GEORGE'S MICROPHONE. >> CAN YOU I ALSO HAVE THE AUDIO COMING UP. >> DO YOU HAVE A KEYBOARD. >> NO, JUST USING MY MAIN KEYBOARD. >> WHEN YOUR SCREEN READER IS TURNED ON PROPERLY, IT WILL SCREEN THROUGH. WHEREVER THERE IS A LINK, IT WILL GIVE. >> SPECK SIGNAL TELLING YOU THERE IS A LINK YOU CAN CLICK ON AND IT WILL EITHER CHANGE IN TONY OR IN OTHER WAYS OF INFORMING YOU THAT THERE ARE WAYS OF SCANING THE SCREEN. I AM SEEING PEOPLE SAY YOU'RE USING THE DAMN MACINTOSH, THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM. THE BASIC ISSUE IS THEY TURN INTO PRESENTATIONS OF WHAT YOU PUTS ON THE SCREEN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE DO WITH THIS WEB SITE -- (COMPUTER TALKING)? . (COMPUTER TALKING) (COMPUTER CONTINUING TO TALK). >> WE WILL REBOOT. WE DO ENCOURAGE AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION. >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT --. >> THAT SOUND IS ONE WE ALL LOVE. WHAT I HAD DONE WAS TOGGLE ON A SPECIAL MODEM. THAT'S WHY IT WAS NOT WORKING. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THIS WEB SITE AND IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY ACCESS IF THE TRACE WEB SITE WHICH AND IT WILL NOT DO THAT WHEN YOU ACCESS IT FROM THE TRACE WEB SITE IS VARIOUS GUIDELINES OF INVOLVING ALL THE TIME IN TERMS OF ACCESS TO THE UNDERLYING CODING CALLED H T M L WHEN YOU DRAW WEB SITE BUT ALSO TO THE CONTENT THAT GETS SENT OVER. IT IS OBVIOUSLY, NOT JUST TEXT BEING SENT OVER WEB SITES THESE DAYS. TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF VISUAL DATA, SOUND DATA NOW IS COMING INTO ITS OWN SNORE AND MORE FREQUENTLY AND DIGITAL MOVIES AS WELL. WE AS WGBH A PUBLIC BROADCASTING STATION ARE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE OF ACTUALLY PROVIDING OUR CONTEMPT OVER THE WEB. SINCE WE BEEN DOING ACCESS FOR SO MANY YEAR, IT WAS NATURAL FOR US TO SAY HOW WILL WE -- HOW ARE WE DOING TO PROVIDE OUR CONTEMPT OVER THE WEB AND STILL BE ACCESSIBLE. IT IS A TOUGH QUESTION BECAUSE THE STANDARDS HAVE NOT ACTUALLY BEEN WRITTEN FOR ADDING CAPTIONS, DESCRIPTIONS ON VIDEO. SO THOSE -- SOME OF THE AREAS WE ARE NEED TOGETHER EXPERIMENT WITH. ONE OF THE ONE THAT IS WE'RE WORKING ON IS THAT WE DISCOVERED FROM APPLES QUICK TIME DEVELOPER'S KIT WHICH WAS USE OF WHAT'S CALLED THE TEXT TRACT IN QUICK TIME MOVIES. NOW, INTERESTINGLY, ENOUGH, THIS WAS SORT OF A UNIVERSAL DESIGN. THEY DIDN'T THINK OF THIS AS A SPECIAL TECHNOLOGY FOR DEAF PEOPLE AND WHAT IT DOES IS -- GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO AVID YO SOUND. SO I'M GOING TO PLAY A LITTLE DIGITAL CLIP AVAILABLE ON THE WEB SITE THE WAY MOST PEOPLE WOULD DOWNLOAD IT. (MUSIC) FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, THE BALL HAS BEEN DOWN AND THROWN AND YOU WANT TO CATCH IT. BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW WHERE IT WILL GO SO YOU CAN BE THERE WHEN IT COMES DOWN? >> WHAT WE SEE IS A LITTLE PROFESSOR IN A WHITE LAB JACKET STANDING ON A FOOTBALL FIELD WITH A BALL IN HIS HAND A LITTLE THUMBNAIL SIZE DIGITAL VIDEO. THROUGH THE USE OF THE QUALITY OF QUICK TIME AND THIS PLAYER, WE CAN ACTUALLY TURN THE TRACT ON AND CONTINUE PLAYING IT WITH CAPTIONS. ONE WAY IS TO USE THIS FORMULA. IT FACTORS IN VELOCITY AND CALCULATE THE DISTANCE THE BALL WILL GO. YOUR BRAIN ESTIMATES ALL THESE VALUES IN FIRST SECTION OF THE BALL SLIDE. >> THIS IS JUST ONE EXPERIMENTAL WAY OF ADDING TEXT TO WHERE THERE IS SOUND ON THE INTERNET. THERE ARE MANY OTHER WAYS CERTAINLY PROVIDING THE FULL TRANSCRIPT THE WAY TOM MENTIONED THIS MORNING ON THE WHITE HOUSE WEB SITE, THEY HAVE A GREETING MESSAGE FROM BOTH PRESIDENT CLINTON AND VICE PRESIDENT GORE BUT YOU CAN ALSO INSTEAD OF DOWNLOADING THE CLIP, WHICH WILL TAKE YOU MAYBE FIFTEEN MINUTES WITH A SLOW MODEM, YOU CAN CLIP ON THE TEXT VERSION AND HAVE IT VIRTUALLY INSTANCE TANOUSLY. YOU CAN CUT AND PASTE THAT IF YOU LIKE TO QUOTE IT YOURSELF OR INTO YOUR BOOK REPORT. IT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE TEXT THAT IS THEN SEARCH ABLE ON LINE WHEN YOU USE ONE OF THESE SENIOR ENGINEERS ARE COMMON THIS DAYS LIKE IT WILL FIND WORDS. SO IF YOU KNEW PRESIDENT CLINTON SAID, "I SUPPORT ACCESS FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES" YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEARCH FOR THAT AND FIND IT. IF IT WAS JUST AN AUDIO CLIP, YOU COULD NOT FIND IT. ONE OF THE OTHER NICE THINGS ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY IS IT GIVES US THE CHANCE OF INDEXING YOUR DIGITAL CLIP. LET ME DRAG THIS WINDOW OVER. I HAVE NOW DRAGGED A SEARCH WINDOW AND I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY FIND. I BELIEVE THEY USED THE WORLD VELOCITY THIN CLIP. IT GOES TO THAT FRAME THAT HIGHLIGHTS THAT WORD. IT FACTORS IN THAT ASK SELL RAY RATION AND TIME. MAKES FOR A VERY NICE LITTLE INDEXING TOOL THERE. IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO FIND CLIPS, YOU CAN GET WHAT THAT DATA. THE NEWEST VERSION OF QUICK TIME, 2.5 HAS EVEN MORE POWERFUL. I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO PLAY WITH IT YET, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND IT CAN DOWN LAD THE CAPTION FROM A VIDEO CLIP AND STORE THEM UP AS A SEPARATE FILE. IT IS QUITE NICE. ONE OTHER LAST CLIP I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU. IS A LITTLE BIT OF A EXPERIMENT WE DID WITH DEDESCRIPTION ON OUR WEB SITE. WE HAD SET UP THIS ONE DEPARTMENT CALLED DESCRIPTIVE VIDEO SERVICE AND WHAT THEY DO IS MAKE VARIOUS TELEVISION PROGRAMS AND HOME VIDEOS ACCESSIBLE THROUGH ADDING A SEPARATE NATIVE TRACT. OF COURSE THIS SERVICE CAN ALSO BE MADE AVAILABLE ON LINE AS YOU SAW WITH THIS MOVIE LAYER MENU. YOU CAN ADD AS MANY VIDEO AND SOUND YOU CAN TRACTS AS YOU CAN WANTED. SO A PERSON COULD DOWN LEWD THE CLIP, IN IN THE SPANISH TRACT, THE MAIN PROGRAM TRAT AND MIX THEM ALL TOGETHER IF THEY WANT. RIGHT NOW, I'M GOING TO FINISH WITH OUR VERSION OF THE LION KING, ALL PERMISSIONS GRANTED BY DISNEY AND HOW WE DESCRIBE THAT. >> YEAAH! >> SYMBOL RACES OUTSIDE, ROBBIE SMILE AND POINTS TOWARD HITS FATHER. THE TWO SIT SIDE BY SIDE WATCHING THE GOLDEN SUNRISE. >> LOOK, EVERYTHING THE LIGHT TOUCHES IS OUR KINGDOM. >> WOW! >> THAT'S ONE WAY OF DOING CLIPS ON LINE. WE WILL BE EXPERIMENTING WITH MANY, MANY OTHERS AND I HOPE THAT IN GOING BACK TO THE TRANSCRIPT OF WHAT I HAD TO SHOW TODAY, WE WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO CORRECT IT AND SHOW YOU THE DEMONSTRATION WORKED PERFECTLY, YOU WILL ALL REMEMBER THAT, RIGHT. THANKS. >>>. >> OUR NEXT CONTESTANT ON COMEDY CENTRAL WILL BE THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM MICROSOFT. AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MAKE TACKY REMARKS. ANY WAY, AT THE 5 CLOCK DEMONSTRATION, I'M SURE LARRY WILL HAVE ALL THE BUGS WORKED OUT. YOU WILL SEE WHAT HAD TO GO THROUGH WITH THE WIRES DOWN HERE, YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM WITH THE ERRORS. THE NEXT PERSON IS FROM MICRO SO.. BEGIN BY INTRODUCING YOURSELF AND TELLING US WHAT YOU WILL DO AND THEN, TRY AND DO IT. >> REMEMBER, TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF, SPEAK INTO THE MIKE CLEARLY AND CONCISELY? WHAT WAS THE THIRD ONE. >> MY NAME IS DAVID BOLNICK, ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAM MANAGER AT MICRO CEMENT. THEY SET ASIDE PROGRAM MANAGERS THAT THEIR SOLE JOB IS TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES OF ACCESS ABILITY AND TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AND IN FUTURE TECHNOLOGY. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE FIVE SECONDS TO ADDRESS SOMETHINGS MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT WHAT'S BEING DONE. THIS ACTUALLY RELATES TO IN INTERNET. BUT WHAT'S MICROSOFT DOING ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY ON THE INTERNET IN GENERAL? ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS THE WAY TO TACKLE THIS PROBLEM WAS TO GO TO THE CORE LEVEL. GO TO THE OPERATING LEVEL, THE OPERATING SYSTEM LEVEL, DOWN DEEP SO THAT IF WE TAKE CARE OF THE ARCHITECT TOUR AND TAKE CARE OF THE UNDER PAINTINGS, THEN, OTHER COMPANIES CAN COME ALONG AND CREATE SOFTWARE AND APPLY THEIR CREATIVE SKILLS TO TAKE THAT SOFTWARE TO GREATER HEIGHTS AND GREATER VISIBILITY. SO WHAT WE ARE RELEASING THIS YEAR IN FACT, IT IS ALREADY IN BATA, THIS IS NOT MAKE-BELIEVE, THIS IS ACTUALLY RELEASED IN BATA AND WILL BE RELEASES TODAY THE ENTIRE WORLD SHORT HE SOMETHING CALLED ACTIVE ACCESSIBILITY. AND ACTIVE ACCESSIBILITY IS A LOT OF TERMINOLOGY THAT BASICALLY MEAN THAT IS WE'RE INTRO DID YOUS TOGETHER THE OPERATING SYSTEM -- TO THE OPERATING SYSTEM LEVEL, THE CODE SO PEOPLE CAN WRITE APPLICATIONS LIKE SCREEN READERS AND KNOW WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN, WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE SCREEN, AND HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT EVERY SINGLE COMPONENT ON THE SCREEN. SO WE WILL MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR A COMPANY TO COME ALONG, TO ADD THESE DESCRIPTION TOSS THEIR SOFTWARE AND ANOTHER COMPANY TO COME ALONG THAT WILL BE ACTUALLY TABLE TO READ THE SCREEN, EFFICIENTLY, AND ALL THE TIME. NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CHANGES IN HE REFER TED SOFTWARE AND DOES NOT WORK THINK MORE. IF PEOPLE FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE, IT WILL ALWAYS WORK. IT IS VERY EXCITING TECHNOLOGY AND AVAILABLE STORE EVERY ONE. WE WANTS TO PROMOTE ITS USE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE CONSISTENT AND ACCESSIBILITY, A SHORT LITTLE SPEECH ON PHILOSOPHY. ACCESSIBILITY IS NOT VERY IMPORTANT OR IS NOT VERY INTERESTING. IF IT IS NOT ACCESSIBLE. SO, YOU HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT. WE TALKED ABOUT SOMEONE WANT THIS, THAT THAT'S FINE BUT IF IT'S NOT CONSISTENT, IF IT IS NOT THE SAME FOR EVERY ONE AND EVERY ONE APPROACHES IT THE SAME WAY, THEN, YOU WILL NEVER HAVE ANYTHING ACCESSIBLE BECAUSE WILL YOU NEVER HAVE AN EXPERT. THAT SAYS THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT. EVERY PERSON WILL BE ON THEIR OWN AND HAVE TO LEARN ON THEIR SHOWN. SO WE WILL HAVE THE HAVES AND HAVE NOT OF COMPUTE HER TECHNOLOGY. WE WANT CONSISTENCY AND IT WILL LEAD TO ACCESSIBILITY. THAT'S NOT WHY I'M HERE TODAY, THOUGH. I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT -- I'M HERE TO GET HIGH PICTURE TAKEN. ACCESSIBILTY AND TECHNOLOGY, WHAT I THOUGHT I WOULD TALK ABOUT TODAY IS THE CONCEPT OF ABOUT MULTI MEDIA. -- CAPTIONING MULTI MEDIA. WHEN YOU SAY WHY DOES CLOSED CAPTIONING IMPORTANT? MULTI MEDIA, DESPITE WHAT PEOPLE LIKE AND DON'T LIKE IS WHERE THE COMPUTER INDUSTRY IS GOING. THERE WILL NOT BE A WEB SITE AVAILABLE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS THAT DOES NOT SUPPORT, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OR USE MULTI MEDIA. SO BROADCAST, TV, IT'S GOING TO MULTI MEDIA HOW IS IT -- WELL, INTERACTIVE TV, SNOUT JUST INTERACTIVE, MAYBE MOVIES ON DEMAND, YOUR INTERFACE, THE WAY YOU WILL TALK TO THE SYSTEM, TO THE TV IS THROUGH MULTI MEDIA. SO THE CONCEPT OF CAPTIONING AND ACCESSIBILITY THROUGH THE TRADITIONAL BROADCAST METHODS WILL FADE AWAY. SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW IS WORK VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S NEEDED FOR CAPTIONING IN MULTI MEDIA SO THAT AS EVERYBODY FOCUSES TOWARD THE VENUE OF MULTI MEDIA, WE WILL BE READY. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOU THROUGH A PROCESS, HOW WE TACKLE THIS PROBLEM AND TO SHOW YOU THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH SO YOU CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT WE GO THROUGH SO ONE, YOU WILL NOT BE SO INPATIENT AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY IT TAKES A FEW MONTHS TO RESPOND TO YOUR {SLER}S AND IDEAS. ---LETTERS AND IDEAS. SO WHY CAPTION MULTI MEDIA. AS I POINTED OUT,LY GO THROUGH IT. BASICALLY, INTERACTIVE TV, SOMETHING SOON CALLED P C THIS. C WHERE THE TV WILL COME RIGHT IN OVER YOUR P C. BASICALLY, WILL YOU INTERACT WITH THAT TV THROUGH A MULTI MEDIA INTERFACE, THE INTERNET, WEB AND EVEN C D ROOM WILL BE DOMINATED BY MULTI MEDIA. EVEN MUNDANE PROGRAMS LIKE "WORD FOR WINDOWS "AND LOT TUESDAY 1, 2, 3, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WILL YOU START SIGHING INTERFACING THAT HAVE A LOT OF MULTI MEDIA CONTENT. FOR EDUCATION REFERENCE TITLES, THOSE TOO WILL BE ENDOWED WITH A {OLT} LOVE MULTI MEDIA. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE IN THE EDUCATIONAL FIELD, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR CHILDREN, IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE WITH JOB {OS} THAT AS THE COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY CHANGES AND IT WILL CHANGE, THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE BLIND PEOPLE, DEAF PEOPLE, WHO HAVE TROUBLE READING HAVE A MEANS TO KEEP UP. THAT THE COMPUTER SHOULD BE AN EQUAL LEADER AND NOT DIVIDE US. CAPTIONING IS A GREAT TEACHING TOOL. OF ALL THE RESEARCH I SEEN OUT THERE, AND I BEEN LOOK THE AT A LOT OF THEM, ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING THING IS ACTUALLY TO TEACH CHILDREN HOW TO READ. OR TO READ BETTER, I SHOULD SAY. AND IT'S GOOD TOOL NOR THAT. IN FACT, IT TEACHES ADULTS HOW TO READ BETTER AS WELL. WHEN I FIRST STARTED STUDYING THIS, I STARTED WATCHING CLOSED CAPTIONING ON TV AND I HAD TROUBLE KEEPING UP. SO I ACTUALLY HAD TO IMPROVE MY READING SO IT IS NOT JUST GOOD FOR TEACHING CHILDREN, IT IS GOOD FOR TEACHING ADULTS. ENTERTAINMENT AND GAME, NO WITHIN SHOULD BE EXCLUDED. WHEN IT'S POSSIBLE, ALL SOFTWARE SHOULD BE CREATED SO THAT ALL PEOPLE CAN USE IT. AND WHEN YOU DESIGN SOFTWARE, WEB PAGES, ALL YOUR DESIGN SHOULD BE DONE SUCH THAT YOU SIT THERE AND GO, AND MICRO SOFT RUN THE TEST THAT WE USE, CAN MY MOTHER USE IT? WELL, IF YOUR MOTHER IS NOT DEAF, YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELF, CAN MY FRIEND'S MOTHER WHO IS DEAF USE IT? AND IF YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR FRIEND'S MOTHER WHO -- OR IF YOUR MOTHER IS NOT BLIND, CAN MY FRIEND'S MOTHER WHO IS BLIND, CAN SHE USE IT. YOU SHOULD ASK THESE QUESTIONS WHEN YOU ARE DE{SIP}INGING PUTTING TOGETHER PACKAGES WHETHER THEY CAN BE USED BY EVERY ONE. SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IS IN DESRIPTION RETRIEVAL OF CONTEMPT. LARRY GAVE YOU A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND HE CONTENT. THE IDEA OF THE COMPUTER, THE INTERNET IS ALL THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR FINGER TIP THAT IS YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BE ABLE TO SEARCH FOR CONTENT. AND THERE IS MUCH MORE. I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU. LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT OUR INITIAL DESIGN PROCESS ON CAPTIONING MULTI MEDIA. I WANT TO ITCH YOU, RUBIN WHO IS IN THE AUDIENCE, WHO IS A BLAME MANAGER, NOT AN ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAM MANAGER BUT JUST A PROGRAM MANAGER, A GOOD PROGRAM MANAGER LO TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF TO TO WORK ON THE DESIGN OF CAPTIONING IN MULTI MEDIA. AND HE DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE HE WAS AN ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAM MANAGER, HE DID IT BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. IT IT WAS RIGHT WAY TO DESIGN SOFTWARE. SO LET ME TELL YOU SOME THINGS YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME. THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO DO AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT THINGS AND SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT RECOGNIZE IS SICK NICE WITH THE AUDIO, AUDIO TRACK AND TEXT TRACT ARE DIFFERENT, IT IS NOT ALWAYS EASY TO SYNCHRONIZE. WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. THE -- FOR INITIAL DESIGN, WE WORKED IN A SINGLE LANGUAGE. ALTHOUGH THE FUTURE WILL DEMAND, MULTIPLE LANGUAGES FOR CAPTIONING AND THE HAVE YOU HAPPEN TO BE LOCATED IN FRANCE AND MY WEB PAGE IS IN THE U.S., WHEN YOU CONNECT TO MY WEB PAGE, IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO DETECT THAT YOU'RE IN FRANCE AND THE CAPTIONING THAT IS DISPLACED IS FRENCH. UNLESS YOU WANT IT TO BE IN ENGLISH. WE STARTED WITH THE SIMPLE FORMAT BECAUSE ALREADY NO TESTS, VERY LITTLE RESEARCH BEING DONE ON CAPTIONING. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST FORMAT. SO WE DECIDED WE START WITH THE VERY SIMPLE FOR WHAT AND SIMULTANEOUSLY AT THIS MOMENT, WE ARE DOING USER ABILITY STUDIES TO DETERMINE THE BEST ATTRIBUTES, TEXT BACKGROUND, ENTRANCE SIX, SO ON AND SO FORTH. -- TRANSACTION, AND IN WINDOWS '95, NOT ANYTHING SERB, BUT BUT THE CONCEPT IS THAT HAS PROPERTY THAT YOU SET. AND IT IMPLIES THAT YOU NEED ASSISTANCE IN -- WITH AUDIO, THAT YOU CAN'T HEAR AUDIO AND PLEASE DISPLAY CAPTIONS AUTOMATICALLY IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE. SO IF SOMEONE USING A COMPUTER SETS THE CAPTION OPTION, OR SHOW SOUNDS OPTION, ANY PROGRAM THAT'S RUNNING THAT SUPPORT CAPTIONS WILL AUTOMATICALLY TURN THE CAPTIONS ON. ANOTHER BIG PROBLEM THAT WE FACED IS THAT BROADCAST MEDIA WHICH YOU'RE USED IT, THE CAPTIONS CAN BE LACED ANYWHERE HAS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT LAYING THE CAPTIONS OVER THE PERSON TALKING, YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. IN MULTI MEDIA WHERE ANY POSITION ON THE SCREEN CAN BE HOT, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN CLICK ON ANY MOTION AND EXPECT A RESPONSE, YOU CAN'T PLACE THE CAPTIONS IN THOSE AREAS. SO WE HAD TO CREATE SOMETHING CALLED A COLD ZONE. NO HOT SITES IN THIS ZONE. LY SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE IN A SECOND. BUT LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU WHEN APPROPRIATE, AN OPTION TO TURN ON AND OFF. THE IDEA HERE IS TO DUP POSE YOU'RE IN THE CLASS ROOM AND ALL THE OTHER KIDS ARE WATCHING A TITLE. ONE DEAF CHILD. CHANCES OF SHOW SOUNDS BEING TURNED ON IS PRETTY UNLIKELY. SO IF WE GIVE PEOPLE AN EASY WAY TO CLICK SON AND OFF, LIKE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING, THEN, IF THE DEAF CHILD IS THERE, HE CAN REQUEST THAT THE CAPTION BY TURNED ON. SO LET ME GO THROUGH QUICKLY HOW WE DID IT. THIS IS NOW -- THE RESOLUTION ON IS SCREEN UP HERE IS NOT VERY GOOD SO IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO SEE. THAT IS CONTROL PANEL WHERE YOU SHOULD CHANGE THE AT TRIBUTE FOR THE ASH ASH FOR THE SHOW SOUNDS. AND UP THERE IS ALSO THE UNIVERSAL ICON THAT'S USED BY EVERY ONE AT THIS POINT FOR ACCESSIBILITY OPTIONS IN THE COMPUTER. WE CHOSE A TITLE. THE FIRST TITLE WOULD BE A KID'S TITLE, IT DIDN'T GIVES US A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY. THEY ARE A LITTLE MORE FORGIVING. SO THE FIRST TITLE WE CHOSE WAS MAGIC SCHOOL BUS. >> (COMPUTER TALKING (. >> SO LET ME GO OVER QUICKLY HOW WE DID THIS. WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A CODE ZONE. WE CLOSE TO BE THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN. BECAUSE ON THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, WE DESIGNATED AS A PLACE WHERE NO HOT SIGHTS, IF YOU CLICK ON IT, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. SO HAS BEND ON THE OF SCREEN THAT HAS NOTHING INTERACTIVE ON IT. WE CHOSE THAT BAND HAS WHERE WE WOULD PUT THE CAPTIONING. AND CAPTIONING IS TURNED ON, THE BAND IS BLACKED OUT WHERE THE TEXT CAN GO. AND THERE IS SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING ON THIS PICTURE. ARE ALL OF YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE MAGIC SCHOOL BUS? MAYBE YOU'RE NOT. THEY PRETTY WELL HAVE HOT SIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE IMAGINE. IF IF YOU CLICK ON HER FACE AND BY THE QUESTION MARK, SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS, YOU'RE INSIDE THE SCHOOL BUS. IF YOU CLICK ON QUICK, SAFE, SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS, WELL TUCKED AWAY RIGHT ABOVE MISS FIZZLE'S FACE, WILL YOU SEE A CC DECALL. IF YOU CLICK ON THE CC DECALL, WILL YOU GET CAPTIONING AND THE CAPTIONING WILL BE IN SYNC WITH THE NARRATION. LET ME GIVEN YOU ONE QUICK OTHER EXAMPLE, HERE IS A SCREEN IMAGE FROM THE MAGIC SCHOOL BUS. WE TURN ON CAPTIONING. WE FIND SOME CONVERSATION AND AWAY YOU GO. IT'S VERY SIMPLE. LET ME TELL HAVE YOU WHAT WE HAVE TO THE WORKED ON YET BUT WHICH WE ARE WORKING ON. MULTIPLE LANGUAGE. WE SHOULD SUPPORT HAS MANY LANGUAGES AS WE CAN. AND CLIENT SIZE MIXING IS A FANCY WAY OF SAYING WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL A VIDEO STREAM FROM ONE LOCATION, AN AUDIO AND TEXT SCREEN FROM ANOTHER LOCATION, FUSS THEM TOGETHER ON THE CLIENT AND HAVE THEM DISPLACED AS CAPTIONING SUPER IMPOSED RIGHT OVER THE IMAGE AND NOT HAVE THEM HAVE TO COME FROM THE SAME SOURCE. ANOTHER FEATURE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DID THE CON SIT OF SAFE AND PRINT CAPTION. THIS ALLOWS YOU TO STAFF THE CAPTION SO AS YOU WORK THROUGHOUT SOMETHING THAT IS EDUCATIONAL, YOU CAN KEEP A WRITTEN RECORD OF WHAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCED. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO MEMORIZE EVERYTHING AND MOST OF YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T MEMORIZE EVERYTHING. WE WANT TO GIVE USERS THE OPTION TO SET THEIR OWN ATRIBUUTION, FONTS, TYPE, BACKGROUND, BOARDER STYLE, TRANSITION TYPE, TRANSITION MEANS DO YOU JUMP SNAP ANOTHER LAYER OF TEXT ON OR DO YOU SCROLL OR DO YOU BLIND IN? THERE IS MANY DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING A TRANSITION. THE TRANSITION IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WITH READING DISABILITIES PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THE TYPE OF TRANSITION YOU USE. AND IT CAUSES THEM TO DEFOCUS ON WHAT THEY ARE READING AND A DELAY IN THEIR ABILITY TO REFOCUS. SO TRANSITION IS RATHER IMPORTANT. AS YOU I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE WANT TO SUPPORT MULTIPLE LANGUAGES, BLOCK PROPERTIES SO YOU CAN HAVE THEM APPEAR IN DIFFERENT SHAPES, WHATEVER IS APPROPRIATE. AND WE WANT TO DO THIS WITH THE CONCEPT OF SCREAMS. SO WE SHOULD NOT HOOK A USER TO GO IN AND CHANGE 20 DIFFERENT SETTINGS AND HAVE THEM TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST ONE. THAT'S OUR JOB. OUR JOB IS TO STUDY WHEN THE THE BEST SETTINGS ARE AND CREATE SCHEMES WITH THOSE SETTINGS LIKE MUSIC, CREATE THESE SCREENS SO PEOPLE CAN PICK FROM THESE SCHEMES. IF THEY WANT TO, THEY CAN GO IN AND MESS AROUND {TW} THE INDIVIDUAL SETTINGS BUT THAT'S ALWAYS VERY COMPLICATED AND VERY DANGEROUS. WE WANT TO INTRODUCE AN EXTENDED CHARACTER SET SO THAT THERE'S SET STANDARDS FOR AN NOTATIONS THAT IS TELL YOU WHAT TYPE OF MUSIC, IS IT A POP, HAPPY PERSON OR WHATEVER TO GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, WE WANT TO SUPPORT INDEXING AND SEARCH. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SO YOU IS A PRODUCT THAT WE WILL BE RELEASING AT THE END OF THIS SUMMER. WE'RE WHAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU IS SOMETHING WITH A SOME BUGS IN IT, STILL BETA. WE WILL HAVE THOSE BUCKS FIXED IN THREE WEEKS RIGHT HERE. THESE BUG THERE IS BE FIXED. I WILL SHOW THEM TO YOU. >>) MUSIC N). >> LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. THIS IS HOW YOU MIGHT THE TYPICAL STUDENT. >> OH WHY HAS MY DINOSAUR GONE? OH WHERE OR WHERE CAN HE BE? WITH TEETH SO BIG \M. >> THIS IS HOW A DEAF STUDENT MY EXPERIENCE IF SAME THING. YOU CAN SEE IS BOYS TALKING BUT, NOTHING IS HAPPENING. NOW, WE CAN GO UP THERE AND THERE IS THIS LITTLE IMAGE UP THERE, BUT IT ACTUALLY SAYS CC ON THERE. AND WE CAN CLICK THAT IMAGE AND THEN, CLICK ON SOMEONE TO {STHAUK} AND THERE YOU GO. >> WE HAVE CAPTIONING ON THE {ZBOM} AND REPRESENTS EXACTLY WHAT SHE IS SAYING. AND YOU CAN SEE IF I GET THE VOLUME BACK UP UP. >> YOU CAN SEE IT WAS IN WITH THE AUDIO. AND THAT'S MY PRESENTATION. >> IF THOSE BUGS ARE WORKED OUT IN THREE WEEK, I PROMISE NEVER TO SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MICROSOFT AGAIN. ONE THING, MANY OF YOU WHO KNOW ME KNOW THAT FOR YEARS, I ALWAYS CARRIED A CAMERA AND BEEN LEGALLY BLIND WHICH CONFUSING THE HELL OUT OF ANYBODY. I SWITCHED TO DIGITAL RECENTLY, KODAK 40 AND IT IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE H MY EYESIGHT HAS GOTTEN SO BAD THAT EVEN USING A LOT OF SLIGHT AND MAGNIFICATION, SEE AGO REGULAR PHOTOGRAPH SPRING IS GETTING MORE DIFFICULT FOR ME. EVERY ROLL OF FILM, I KNEW HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE I CAN'T IDENTIFY BECAUSE EVER NOT SEEN THEIR PICTURE BEFORE. SO I GOT HUNDREDS OF PICTURES COLLECTED. SOME DAY, THEY WILL ALL RUSH OFF AT THE SAME TIME AND I WILL HAVE PROBLEMS. WITH THIS LITTLE CAMERA, I TAKE YOUR PICTURE, TAKE IT SOME AND DO A LITTLE COMPARTMENT ON THE SIDE HERE. I PLUG IN MY -- THE PRINTSER PORT {UX} DOWNLOAD YOU ON A HARD DISK, PUSH A BUT PHONE AND I CAN SEE YOU ON MY COMPUTER SCREEN. I JUMP SPENDS $5,000 AND PROBABLY WILL GO BLIND IN A WEEK, A MACINTOSH WILL ALLOW ME TO SEE MAYBE A COUPLE OF MONTHS OR YEARS LONGER BUT THIS IS THE WAY IT IS GOING AND WILL MAKE PHOTOGRAPHY AND SEEING A LOT {Z} {YR} KODAK ACTUALLY HAS ON THE MARKET NOW, A SMALL ONE SIMILAR TO MY REGULAR CAMERA UNDER $350 FOR A DIGITAL. IT IS BEGINNING AND IT IS GOING IN THE RIGHT PLACES. GREGG HAS DEMONSTRATED TO ME AND HOPEFULLY, HE MAY DO IT TO NEW AFTERNOON, A DIGITAL VIDEO CAMERA THAT IS HALF THE SIZE OF THIS. AND IT TAKES 60 MINUTES HOST VIDEO AND ALLOWS YOU TO DUMP THAT ON THE HARD DISK AND VIEW IT THROUGH YOUR COMPUTER. SO DIGITAL IMAGING IS BASICALLY WHERE WE'RE HEADED AND A PLACE I HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN TO. GREGG HAS THIS PARANIOA ABOUT BEING VAST AND THE FACT HE NEVER GETS ENOUGH TIME TO FINISH. SO I'M GOING TO SHUT UP AND LET GREGG INTRODUCE HIMSELF BRIEFLY AND TELL YOU ALL ABOUT HIS DEMONSTRATION PROCESS. WHICH YOU WILL GET TO DO A HANDS ON AT 50 CLOCK DOWN IN THE BAM ROOM. SO I GIVE YOU, EVERY ONE KNOWS, GREGG. >> HI. I'M SUPPOSED TO BE WIRE HERE. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? IS THE MICROPHONE WORKING. >> NOT WELL ENOUGH FOR THE VIRTUAL FOLKS. >> CAN YOU TURN THE MIKE UP BECAUSE I WILL BE USING MY HANDLES. >> I'M GREGG VANDERHEIDEN WITH THE TRACE CENTER WHICH CELEBRATES ITS 25TH YEAR THIS YEAR. IN ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY AND ACCESS. WE STARTED IN THE AREA OF AUGMENTIVE COMMUNICATION AND MOVED INTO COMPUTERS WHEN THEY CAME OUT. THE CONCERN THERE AND THIS IS VERY RELEVANT FOR WHERE WE'RE GOING, THE CONCERN WAS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU USE SPECIAL COMPUTER WITH SPECIAL SOFTWARE TO DO SPECIAL THINGS FOR SPECIAL PEOPLE. WELL, THIS IS ALL FINE AND DAD DANDY EXCEPT THE COMPUTERS WERE NOT BEING DESIGNED AND BUILT TO DO THESE SPECIAL THINGS. THEY WERE BEING DESIGNED AND BUILT TO ALLOW THE ENTIRE MASS POPULATION TO BE ABLE TO GO IN DIRECTIONS AND DO ALL SORTS OF THINGS AND THE CONCERN WAS THAT THE SPECIAL PEOPLE COULD USE THE SPECIAL SOFTWARE BUT THE SPECIAL PEOPLE WERE NOT ABLE TO USE THE REGULAR SOFTWARE AND DO THE REGULAR THINGS. SO THE FOCUS WAS ON WHAT WE CALLED TRANSPARENT ACCESS AND THAT IS, HOW DO WITH CREATE THING SO PEOPLE CAN ACCESS AND USE THEM THE WAY WITH ALL OF THE STANDARD SOFTWARE, ET CETERA. AS THE IS INFORMATION SYSTEM IS NOW COMING TO THE FORE, WE ARE RUN INTO THE SAME PROBLEM AGAIN, ONLY THIS TIME, WE HAVE AN ADDITION PROBLEM AND HAS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO JUST HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THESE THINKING DOING THE REGULAR THINGS THEY WERE DESIGNED TO DUTY THE THE THINGS WE WANT ACCESS TO IS SHOWING UP IN OUR ENVIRONMENT, INFORMATION, PUBLIC BUILDING DIRECT DIRECTORIES ARE SHOWING UP, IN THIS FORM, LIBRARYS, SCHOOLS, IT IS TURNING TO BE AN ACADEMIC' THING. WHEN THAT HAPPEN, WE LOSS THE ABILITY TO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL GO AND JURY RIG THEIR OWN COMPUTER SO THEY CAN NOW USE IT TO USE WITH THE STANDARD SOFTWARE. WE HAVE TO PICK OUT STRATEGIES NOW THAT WILL ALLOW AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE ABLE TO WALK UP TO THE TECHNOLOGIES WHERE OF HE {FP} FIND OUT THROUGH THE DAY AS THEY FIND THEM EXAMPLE BE ABLE TO USE THEM WHERE THEY FIND THEM. WITHOUT HAVING TO OPEN THEM UP AND REPROGRAM THEM AND ADD SPECIAL TECHNOLOGY ET CETERA. ES {SPB} ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALKING OPENING UP ATM'S. WE TRY TO SAY IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF ACCESS AND HE WANTED TO KNOW ACCESS TO WHAT, FINANCIAL FREEDOM? SO WE COME TO SOMETHING WHICH IS CALLED UNIVERSAL DESIGN BASICALLY, WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO IS THAT WE NEED TO BEGIN LOOK ING AT HOW WE DESIGN THESE TECHNOLOGIES SO THEY ARE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH SO THAT PEOPLE WITH ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF DISABILITIES ARE ABLE TO USE THEM, THAT THEY IN FACT ALLOW THEMSELVES TO BE ADAPTED TO FIT. NOW, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY GREAT IDEA UNTIL YOU START THINKING ABOUT WHAT IT REALLY MEAN,, WE SAID, WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT FOR EVERYBODY WHO HAS A DISABILITY BUT WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT FOR THESE PEOPLE. SO LET'S WORRY ABOUT THOSE. THE PROBLEM THERE IS THAT WE ARE THEN DOCK WHAT WE ACCUSE THE MASS MARKET PEOPLE OF DOING AND THAT IS GOING FOR THE SWEET SPOT AND ANYTHING WE DON'T KNOW AND UNDERSTAND, WE SORT OF IGNORE. SO SO WE ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT MAKING THINGS ACCESSIBLE, THING THAT IS CAN BE USED BY PEOPLE THAT DON'T SEE VERY WELL OR CAN'T SEE AT SHALL AND DON'T HEAR VERY WELL AND CAN'T EHAR AT ALL. WHO HAVE MANIPULATION PROBLEMS WHO CAN'T REACH VERY WELL OR REACH AT ALL. SO THEY CAN'T REACH SOUGHT AND TOUCH IT. WHO DON'T READ VERY WELL OR WHO CAN'T READ AT ALL. AND JUST CAN NOW, SOMEBODY IN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO A KIOSK DESIGNERS START RAISING THEIR LAND AND SAY WELL, WE CAN'T DESIGN SOMETHING. WHAT'S LEFT? THE ANSWER IS YOU'RE STUDENT THIS GOES IN TERMS OF SINGLE INTERFACE, YOU'RE THINKING OF THINGS THAT'S WHAT ONE THING ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO USE AND THERE IS NOT. BUT IT IS VERY EASY TO MAKE THING WHICH IS ARE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO ALLOW YOU TO ACCESS THEM. I'M GOING TO DO A DEMONSTRATION OF ONE SYSTEM USING A TOUCH SCREEN KIOSK. IT IS IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT THE SAME TECHNOLOGIES NEED TO APPLY TO TOUCH SCREEN P DA'S, LITTLE BITTY CELLULAR PHONES ABOUT THE {SYZ} OF A HALF PACK OF CIGARETTES LIKE THAT. THIS IS DIGITAL CAMERAS OF THE FUTURE WHICH IS REALLY CUTE EXCEPT THEY START HAVING TO HIDE WHERE THEY {RO} GOING IF PUT THE CONTROLS AND THINGS ON THEM BECAUSE THERE IS NO ROOM TO PUT THE CONTROLS. THE CONTROL PANEL STARTS LOOKING LIKE A SPACESHIP AGAIN AND HOW ARE PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT DISABILITIES GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS AND USE HEM. WE'RE ACTUALLY HEALEDING TOWARD THE DAY WHERE THIS IS WHAT WE WILL BE CARRY WITH US AND WERE THIS IS ABOUT OH, FOUR BY 7 INCHS AND I CAN OPEN IT UP AND IT IS TWICE THAT SIZE. AND ON HERE, I WILL HAVE A DISPLACE, -- DIS BLAZE AND IT HAS A TOUCH SCREEN ON IT, THE BOTTOM CAN BE A DISPLAY OF A KEYBOARD. >> HOW SOMEBODY BLIND GOING TO ACCESS THAT? >> BUT WITH IT, THIS IS WHAT THEY CALL A THIN CLIENT, IT IS ABOUT A 16TH OF AN {NFERJTS} BUT THEY {RL} ALREADY WORKING ON THESE, WITH THIS,LY BE ABLE TO LOOK ATLY DOCUMENTATION IN WORLD, ANY VIDEO IN THE WORLD, WIRELESSLY CONNECT ING. SO WHEREVER I A, I HAVE ACCESS TO HAUL MY INFORMATION AT HOME. INSTEAD OF LOOKING TO THIS PRESENTATION, I CALL UP THE GOOK AND I CAN READ THE BOOK SITTING IN THE BACK OF ROOM OR ON THE PODIUM. YOU THINK I'M TAKING NOTES BUT I'M READING NOVELS HOW WILL THEY BE ASKS {SES} BELIEVE WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE KEYBOARDS. SO WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THAT. WE WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME BY BILL TEE TO OPEN THESE UP AND START STICKING ADDITIONAL PIECE OF HARDWARE INSIDE. TO WHEN WE TALK UNTHE FEW MR. AND TALKING PUBLIC SYSTEM AND TALKING WHAT I WOULD CALL INFORMATION APPLIANCES, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS, REMEMBER, THEY WERE TRYING TO GET THEM DOWN BETWEEN 10 AND A THOUSAND DOLLARS, WELL, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TEN AND A THOUSAND DOLLARS, JUST THE SOFTWARE WILL COST 3 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF PRODUCT AND YOU CAN'T INSTALL THINGS IN HERE ANYWHERE. SO AGAIN, WE NEED TO LOOK AT BUILT IN ACCESS. THIS THING, I WAS STILL HOLDING ON TO THE SAME CARD I HAD DISCUSSED EARLIER. WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS THING, IT WAS STILL THE SIMULATION-{DHRB}S A PIECE OF CARDBOARD BY THE WAY OF THE THIN CLIENT NOR THE FUTURE. OKAY. NOW, THIS IS A TOUCH SCREEN KIOSK WHICH I HAVE HERE AND YOU CAN SEE THE IMAGE OF IT. THOSE WHO CAN SEE THE SCREEN UP ABOVE. AND ON THE SCREEN, IS A 8 BUTTONS LABELED, MAP AND DIRECTORYS, PERSONAL INFORMATION, ANY QUESTIONS ET CETERA. THIS IS A TOUCH SCREEN KIOSK WHICH IS ON CAMPUSES ACROSS THE {KOUN} COUNTRY NOW. IF I TOUCH THE PERSON THAT WILL INFORMATION, IT THROWS UP THE SCREEN AND ON THE SCREEN IS A KEY PAD AND SOME BUTTON, AND IT ASKS ME TO ENTER MY STUDENT NUMBER. SO I TYPE IN MOOT STUDENT NUMBER. IT ASKS ME FOR MY PIN NUMBER AND I ENTER IT AND NOW, IT THROWS UP ANOTHER SCREEN PULL OF BUTTON, UNOFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT, FALL SCHEDULE, REGISTRATION {FRX} I HIT ENTRANCE SCRIPT, I CAN SEE IS ENTRANCE SCRIPT ROOF ALL OF GRADES. I CAN {PRS} THE PREVIOUS MENU, IF I ASK FOR A DEGREE ASUDIT, LET TELL ME EVERYTHING I HAVE TAKEN, EVERYTHING I HAVE NOT TAKE AND ENWHAT I NEED TO TAKE IN ORDER TO GRADUATE. I CAN REGISTER FOR A COURSE BY PRESSS REGISTRATION, GIVES ME A BUNCH OF AREAS, ART, BIOLOGY, GIVES ME ALL THE COURSES IN BUY OLD GUY AND LET'S ALL THE SECTION, I JUST REGISTER FOR A COURSE. ANYBODY FROM THE NORTHERN COUNTRIES WHO REMEMBER SANDING FOR VERY LONG LINES IN THE COLD TRYING TO REGISTER FOR CLASSS, IT IS JEALOUS WHEN THEY SEE THIS. THE QUESTION IS, HOW ARE PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF DISABILITY GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS AND USE THIS? WOMEN, ONE OF THE THINGS ON HERE VERY JUST BELOW THE SCREEN, HAS {GLEERN} DIAMOND SHAPED BUT PHONE AND BY JUST HOLDING -- HAS GREEN DIAMOND BUTTON. DIDN'T YOU HOLD THE BUTTON DOWN AND JUST TOUCH ANY ITEMS ON THE SCREEN... >> (COMPUTER TALKING) PERSONAL INFORMATION. >> NOW, I COME TO THE NEXT SCREEN, AND I CAN SEE THE KEY PAD, NO PROBLEM, AND ENTER THE NUMBER BUT CAN'T READ THE BUTTONS. THE LETTERING IS TOO SMALL NOR MY VISION. AGAIN, I CAN PRESS THE BUT NON AND PROCEED. ON THIS SCREEN, I CAN ALSO SIMULATE BY TOWN AGO SECRET PLACE ON THE SCREEN. WHAT I HAVE DONE IS 20 TAKE ALL THE LETTERS ON THE SCREEN AND CHANGE THEM INTO A DIFFERENT CHARACTER. SO NOW, ALTHOUGH THOSE IN THE ROOM WHO HAVE % PERFECT VISION CAN SEE. IT IS STILL ENGLISH SPELLING BY THE WAY, YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. SO THIS IS WHAT IS A SCREEN LOOKS LIKE TO SOMEBODY WHO CAN'T READ WHERE THE DON'T IS TOO SIGNAL FOR THEM TO SEE. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT BUT THEY CAN'T. AND AGAIN, BY USING -- (COMPUTER TALKING. >> BY TOUCHING THE ITEM, IT WILL HEED THEM TO THEM. A PERSON WHO IS ILLITERATE COULD COME IN AND FIND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR. FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH LOW VISION, AND YOU CAN USE THIS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE POINT WHERE YOU START NOT BEING ABLE TO TELL WHERE THE OBJECTS ARE ON SCREEN AND PROCEED IN TO PEOPLE WHO ARE BLIND, THEN YOU START HAVING A PROBLEM TRYING TO FIND THINGS SCATTERED AROUND, THEY ARE EVEN VERY RANDOMLY AND {TERD} AROUND, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE LOOK AT THIS ONE WHICHING LOOKS THE FOR QUESTIONS, AND I GO OFF, WHAT IT SHOWS YOU IS A SCREEN WITH A {BIFERJTSES} OF PEOPLE STANDING AROUND WITH A BUBBLES COMING OUT THEIR MOUTH. EACH ONE HAS A QUESTION AND YOU PUSH THE YET AND IT THEN GIVES YOU THE CHANCE. AGAIN, THEY COULD CAUSE GREAT PROBLEM {FS} YOU'RE TRYING TO DO ACCESS. THE MODE CALLED SPEED LIST ALLOWS YOU TO PULL UP A LIST THAT WILL GIVE YOU A LISTING OF EVERYTHING ON THE SCREEN IN A LIST DOWN THE LEFT EDGE OF IS SCREEN. SO NOW, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS BLIND CAN ACCESS THIS ENTIRE KEY OBJECTION WITHOUT EVER TAKING THEIR HAND OFF THE LEFT EDGE OF THE SCREEN AND WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT HOW IT IS LAID SORT. SOLY GO TO THE DIRECT TORE SCREEN WITHOUT LOOKING AT IT AND SEARCH FOR TO ENGLISH DEPARTMENT. SO I HIT THE BUTTON WHEN I {FIMDZ} DIRECTORY. OKAY, SO NOW, AGAIN, A SPEED LIST APPEARS, I RUN BY FINANCING ARE DOWN THAT LIST. THAT'S {WHAMENT} I WANT, SO FOR THOSE WHO CAN SEE, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IS {LTSES} A KEYBOARD FILLING THE SCREEN AND YOU'RE SUPPOSE TODAY TYPE THE BEGINNING LETTERS OF WHATEVER DEPARTMENT YOU WANT. BUT I CAN'T SEE IT SO I USE THE SPEED LIST AND I FIND... I'M RUNNING MY I GO FINGER DOWN. SO IF I WANT TO ENGLISH DEPARTMENT, {6} -- (COMPUTER TALKING (. >> THEN, THAT'S ENOUGH... SO I CAN BACK SPACE, SEE WHAT I TYPED, I HIT SEARCH, IT GIVES ME A LISTING OF THE DEPARTMENTS I SEARCHED FOR. ... SO IT AABLE TO USE THE THING COMPLETELY WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SEE IT. NOW, FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO MORE SEVERE DISABILITY AND UNABLE TO ACTUALLY EVEN REACH OR TOUCH THE KIOSK, THEN, AND OR FOREPEOPLE WHO ARE DEAF, BLIND, THERE IS ALSO A VERY EASY WAY TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THE SYSTEM. THE -- WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW AND HAVE SET UP IS A TECHNIQUE WHERE YOU CAN USE OTHER INFRA RED LINK. I'M GOING TO DISCONNECTS THE KIOSK FOR A SECOND AND CONNECT THE DISPLAY HERE UP TO LAP TOP AND USING JUST AN INFRA RED LINK TO THE-I'M ABLE TO ACCESS AND USE THE SAME KIOSK THAT YOU DID THERE. FOR EXAMPLE, IF I WERE DEAF, {BLINLD}, I MIGHT BE USING SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHICH IS A BRAILLE LIGHT WHICH IS ABOUT A 6 BY 9, {SNRJTSES} AND A HALF THICK DEVICE, IT HAS A DYNAMIC BRAILLE DISPLAY SO A PERSON GUEST AND BLIND CAN USE THE BRAILLE KEY {ZBOORD} AND READ INFORMATION ON THE BRAILLE DISPLAY. THEY IS BEING DESIGNED TO INCLUDE AN INFRA READ PORT, FOR WORKING WITH A MANUFACTURER AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO WALK UP WITH ANYTHING QUINN I HAD WITH A INFRA RED LINK AND DO THE SAME THING THAT I'M DOING ON THE LAPTOP. YOU CAN SCROLL THE DISPLAY UP ABOVE. AGAIN, IF I MOVE DOWN HERE TO THE MAIN MENU, I CAN CALL UP AS YOU CAN SEE, A LISTING OF THE ITEMS ON THE SCREEN AND WHAT'S APPEARING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN IS A WHAT A PERSON WOULD SEE ON THE BRAILLE DISPLAY. SO THEY CAN STEP THROUGH THESE ITEMS UNTIL THEY FOUND FOR EXAMPLE, ANY QUESTIONS. IT SAYS ONE MOMENT. THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN TO THE KIOSK WILL TO AS I'M DOING THIS, I'M NOT TOUCHING THE COULD {OK} AT ALL AND YET, I HAVE COMPLETE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH AND TO OPERATE IT. SO HERE I AM IN THE MENU CHOICE LOOKING AT THE IN-TOUCH COUNSELOR AND I CAN GO SLOW AND BEGIN A COUNSELING {SKPTION} THIS WILL ACTUALLY HELP ME TO DETERMINE HOW MANY COURTS I SHOULD TAKE, HOW MANY CREDITS I SHOULD TAKE. OKAY. SO, AS I HAVE GONE THROUGH IT SAYS DESCRIPTION OF SCREEN, ARE YOU CURE {RJTSES}LY, A STUDENT, YES, I COMPLETED TWO OR MORE {QAERMENT}, YES BUT I ONLY HAVE ONE OR TWO CARE QUARTS, ET CETERA. SO WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS THE SAME INFORMATION PRESENTED ON THE SCREEN BUT ENTIRELY IN VERBAL FORM SO IT COULD BE PRESENTED IN BRAILLE ORAL SPEECH OR ANY FORM THAT I WANTED. AND YET, THE IT IS NOT CONNECT TODAY THE KIOSK IN ANY FASHION. SO, WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS A KIOSK USED BY INDIVIDUAL WITH LOW VISION OR NO VISION, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME LICK THAT CAN BE USED BY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE GOOD ABILITY TO TOUCH. ONE OF THE TECHNIQUES ALSO THAT WE CAN SHOW IS FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH PHYSICAL DISABILITIES. THE ABILITY TO USE IT IN THE CONFIRMED MODE. I'M GOING BACK TO THE START UP MENU HERE FOR A SECOND. AND THE -- I'M SORRY. AND AS WITH MY INDIVIDUAL WITH A PHYSICAL DISBILL BILL TEE TRIED TO USE IT, IF -- FOR EXAMPLE, IF I WAS TRYING TO -- OH, THE VIDEO CAME OFF, I'M GOING TO THE MAP AND DIRECTS TORES PAGE AGAIN. NOW, THIS TYPICALLY FOR SOMEONE WITH A PHYSICAL DISABILITY IS A MIND FIELD. THE INDIVIDUAL WILL TRY TO SPELL THEIR NAME AND BUT WITH THE CONFIRM MODE, IT'S NOT THE SAME PROBLEM YOU WOULD THINK. FOR EXAMPLE, IF I WERE TO TRY TO SPELL MY NAME AND OKAY, AS SOON AS I GET THE G, THEN I GO DOWN GO HIT THE BUTTON, THEN IT PRINTS THE G. NOW, I GO OUT TO THE R, OKAY, WHEN I GET THE R, I {TIK} THE R. SO EVEN THOUGH -- TYPE THE R. SO AS THE PERSON IS TRYING TO GET IT, THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD AND THE SOFT CORRECTING NATURE, THE CONFIRMING NATURE OF IT, IT WOULD I GO MORE THE WRONG CHARACTER AND ONLY SPELLS OUT THE CHARACTERS AS THEY ARE ABLE TO {STUJTSES} FULLY HIT {THIMENT} THEM. THERE IS ALSO A {SQAN}ING MODE WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO BE USED BY JUST THE BUT NONAND ALSO, YOU CAN USE THE INFRA RED. SO IF YOU WERE CHRISTOPHER RIFF OR SOMEONE ELSE, AND COULD NOT REACH UP, YOU SHOULD USE A SIP AND PUFF CAPABILITY. FINALLY, LAYING OFF PLAYING OFF THE PRESENTATION BY DAVE AND LARRY, WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HOW WE ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE MUD TEE MEDIA INFORMATION. -- MULE THREE MEDIA INFORMATION AND IF I CAN JUST HOOK THIS UP HERE. WE CAN LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL WHY CLIPS. WE ARE FINDING {SLOR} AND MORE OF THE -- MORE AND MORE OF THE --. >> AGAIN, WITH THESE ALL THE PERSON WOULD HAVE TO DID IS JUST MAKE A GESTURE BY RUNNING THEIR HAND DOWN THE LEFT EDGE OF THE SCREEN AND WOULD KICK ON THE MODE. S SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER AND NOW YOU'RE SEEING THE SAME VIDEO. SO BASICALLY, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING THE ABILITY TO THROW UP CAPTIONING. SIMILARLY, IF YOU HAVE THE SPEED LIST MODE ON, YOU WOULD GET IT WITH DESCRIPTION. BECAUSE IT WOULD NOTICED THAT IN FACT, YOU'RE USING IT IN A NON{VUS}AL NATION EXAMPLE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY PROVIDE YOU A DESCRIPTION OF ALL OF THE VIDEO THAT IS GOING ON BOARD. SO IT ALSO HANDLED PEOPLE WHO HAVE HARD OF HEARING AND WHO WERE DEAF AND ALSO, DEAF, BLIND AND PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT TOUCH IT AND PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT READ. SO THAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY CAN BE BUILT IN AND THE $64,000 QUESTION AT THIS POINT IS DOES THIS COST $64,000 TO DO? THE ANSWER IS THAT USING A STANDARD MULTI MEDIA KIOSK WHICH ALREADY HAS THE SOUND CAPABILITIES IN IT BECAUSE THEY ARE PLAYING THE AUDIO, YOU CAN NOW GET VOICE SYNTHESIZER SOFTWARE FOR AS LITTLE AS $13 AND THE SWITCH THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THAT REPLATESS IN FUNCTION IF YOU WILL, THE RIGHT MOUSE BUTTON SO JUST CONNECTIONS RIGHT TO THE MOUSE WORK AND YOU HAVE TO BUY A BUT {TON} TO ADD TO YOUR KIOSK. THAT'S IT. THE REST IS JUST CONSIDERATE PROGRAMMING. ONCE YOU'RE BUILT IT INTO YOUR {SYFT} WARE AND INTO YOUR TOOLS, THEN, WHEN YOU CREATE ADDITIONAL KIOSK, THEY COME WITH IT. EVEN THE INFRA RED LINK. YOU CAN'T BUY A LAPTOP ANY MORE OR EVEN THIS CHASE LITTLE P DA THAT DON'T ALREADY COME WITH THE INFRA RED ALREADY BUILT INTO THEM. SO ALL THE TOOLS, HARDWARE USE TODAY COST A THOUSAND DOLLARS NO. YOU THEY COME FREE AND BUILT INTO THE MACINTOSH OPERATING SYSTEM AND I DON'T THINK WE WILL BE AROUND VERY LONG BEFORE YOU WILL FIND IT BUILT INTO ALL THE OTHER OPERATING SYSTEMS AS {WM}. WHEN WE GO FORWARD, WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING IS LOOKING. THIS IS JUST ONE TECHNOLOGY. WE HAVE THE LITTLE TECHNOLOGY, THE CARDBOARD THIN CLIENT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. ALL OF THESE THINGS LIKE LIKE THEY ARE VERY, VERY HARD BUT WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THE ANSWERS IS JUST A LACK OF IDEAS AND {TREN} COMING UP WITH NEW IDEAS AND THE DIRECTION TECHNOLOGIES ARE GOING, THEY {RO} GIVING US THE TOOLS THEY WANT TO. DOING WHAT THIS KIOSK DID FOUR YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS A AGO WHO HAVE {KOFERMENT} A THOUSAND DOLLARS, SYNTHESIZER, ALL OF THAT STUFF IS AVAILABLE TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO END BY THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING WHICH IS A PARA PHRASE OF A FRIEND -- SOMEONE THAT I LOOK TO, ALBERT INN SIGN WHO ONCE SAID, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE MADE HAS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE BUT NO SIMILAR. AND I THINK THAT WHEN -- SIMPLER. WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD AND TO THINK ABOUT A CON {STHEMENT} THAT GOES SOMETHING LIKE EVERYTHING SHOULD BE MADE AS ACCESSIBLE AS COMMERCIALLY POSSIBLE AND THE NICE THING IS THAT WHAT IS COMMERCIALLY POSSIBLE IS CHANGING {VA}, VERY, RAPIDLY AND WITH NEW IDEAS AND THE IN ROW {VOFL}ING TECHNOLOGY, IT IS NOW COMMERCIALLY POSSIBLE AND PRACTICAL TO MAKE THINGS WHICH ARE VERY, VERY COST DISABILITY ACCESSIBLE. AS WE SAW HERE, IT IS NOT JUST PEOPLE WHO HAVE WHAT WE CALL CLASSIC DISABILITIES, BUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT THEIR GLASSES IN THE OTHER ROOM. I WILL NOT TELL {TU} NUMBER OF TIMES I HAD TRIED TO USE THIS PHONE BUT DIDN'T HAVE FLY GLASSES ON OR HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CASHED CARS UP, TRYING TO USE THEIR SOFTWARE WHILE DRIVING AND WOULD IT BE ISER IF YOU COULD OPERATE YOUR CELL PHONE WITHOUT TRYING TO LOOK AT IT. IT IS NOT JUST DISABILITIES BUT AS GEORGE POINTED OUT, ALMOST ALWAYS, THE THINGS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT MAKES IT MORE PLEX I BELIEVE, END UP MAKING IT A WHOLE LOT MORE PLEX I BELIEVE AND USE {E} USABLE FOR US AND WE KEEP USING "US" TO MOON ALL THE PEOPLE WITH VARYING LEVELS OF DISABILITY AS WE ARE IN INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE ACQUIRING THEM RAPIDLY AS WE ARE AGING. >> ONE THING THAT POINTED OUT TO AS VISUALLY IMPAIRED,/LEGALLY BLIND PERSON IS THAT ALL THREE OF OUR SPEAKERS BARE STRIKING RESEMBLANCE TO FIDEL CASTRO. THE PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE ON CONTEST {TANTS}, 1, 2 OR 3 AS TO WHO LOOKS THE MOMENT. BLIND AS I AM, I THINK MICROSOFT MIGHT HAVE IT DOWN. WE CAN TELL HE STILL HAS NOT REMEMBERED THAT IT HAS PASSED 1969 AND GONE {TON} TO LATER YEARS BUT ANY WAY, ONE THING, IMPORTANT. >> FOR SOMEBODY BLIND, YOU'RE STILL IN THE RUNNING. I DIDN'T SHAVE TODAY. >> ONE THING, I LIVED IN WASHINGTON FOR 20 YEARS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN IN WASHINGTON, CATCH THE SHUTTLE INTO UNION STATION IF YOU WANT TO EAT TONIGHT AND YOU CAN FIND EVERY PRICE {RAFERJTS} FROM THE RICE BOWL WHICH IS THE CHEAP {WHEEP}IST FOOD TO THIS FLAMERS WHO IS THE BEST CHEESE BURGERS FROM FANCY ITALIAN RESTAURANTS ON UP. SO TAKE THE SHUT THAT WILL INTO UNION STATION BUT DON'T WALK OUTSIDE UNION STATION, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO MAKE IT BACK HERE TODAY TOMORROW. IF YOU HAVE NOT PICKED OUT, YOU'RE NOT IN THE NICEST NEIGHBORHOOD IN WASHINGTON. BETSY HAS INFORMED ME THEY WILL TURN THE LIGHTS OUT AT 3:30 {GREK}, WOULD YOU LIKE QUESTION COMING DOWN HERE. >> I WANT TO COMMEND ALL THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE ON THE THE PANEL DID TELL THAW WE'RE BOTH IMPRESSED AND GRATEFUL WITH YOUR EFFORT BUT LEFT ANY OF THE REST OF REST ON OUR MORAL, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU THE REPORT FROM THE FRENCHS OKAY, WHILE YOU'RE BUSY MAKING ACCESSIBLE KEY SOCK AND ACCESSIBLE MULTI MEDIA AND VIDEO, AND FILMS, THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT IN THE R N D ENVIRONMENT. ARE GOING TO MEETINGS AND HEARING PRESENTATION BY MICROSOFT DISTRIBUTES THAT TALKING WESTBOUND OPERATING TOOL AND NEVER TALKING ACCESSIBLE WEB SITES, THOSE OF US IN STATE GOVERNMENT ARE DEALING WITH PROCUREMENT OFFICERS THAT HAVE NEVER HEARD OF SECTION 508. THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE THE POWER OF THE MARKETPLACE ALREADY LEGAL LIE AT HOUR COMMAND IF WE ONLY CHOSE TO USE IT. IN OTHER WORDS, ALL THESE KIOSKS, THAT ARE BEING SOLD TO STATES, NEED TO BE MADE ACCESSIBLE, THE LAWS ARE ON THE BOOKS BUT {SOBL} HAS TO GET OUT THERE AND LET THE PROCUREMENT FOLKS NOBODY KNOW ABOUT THAT. WITH REGARD TO VIDEO AND FILM,LY NOT DESERT YOU AT W B G H {URX} WE NEED TO DEAL WITH COMMERCIAL DISDISTRIBUTOR OUTS FLOOR FILM AND PLACES LIKE BLOCKBUSTERS BLOCK BUSTERS HAVE A {P} EXPERIMENTAL PROGRAM WHERE THEY ARE GIVING OUT TAPES I DON'T THINK IF THEY DONE THE SAME FOR AUDIO DESCRIPTION. TO MY POINT IS IT IS A {DRAERT} WORLD {UX} BUT THOSE OF US WERE STILL LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD ARE VERY IMPATIENT. SO THANK YOU HELP US AND EVERY ONE CONTINUE THE EFFORT, BUT THERE IS STILL A LOST OF WORK TO BE DONE. I'M MARY BRADY WITH THE MARYLAND TECHNOLOGY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. I USE TODAY WORK WITH GREGG. >> THE THING IS, IT IS DECREASE DECREASE WE CAN ALSO CLAIM THERE IS DUMB PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT, DON'T UNDERSTAND 508 AND SO {TORLT}, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL READ A BIG EDITORAL SAYING MY GOD, THE FINAL PARTS OF ADA ARE IN PLACE NOW, DO YOU KNOW THAT MEANS THAT HUNDRED OF MILLIONS OVER DOLLARS WILL BE {NONLTSES} TO MAKE SCHOOLS ACCESSIBLE. THE WALL STREET JOURNAL HAD EVER HEARD OF 504. IF {WHEKT} GET TO WALL STREET JOURNAL, HOW ARE WE GETTING ANY PLACE ELSE. DID NOT KNOW OF THE CONSIST O THEY THOUGHT A D {HAFMENT} WAS THE FIRST ARE THING THAT AFFECTED SCHOOLS IF WE CAN'T GET TO THE WALL STREET JOURNAL SIGNAL AND THOSE ARE NOT THE DUMB I PEOPLE IN JOURNALISM. I CAN GIVE YOU A LONG LIST BEFORE WE GET TO THAT THE "NEW YORK TIMES" WROTE A {YOT} SAIL THOSE DISABLED PEOPLE ARE {GIP} TOGETHER REALIZE THEIR SO-CALLED RIGHTS ARE A BEGINNING FOR DISTORTION AND THEY LOT THAT STAND A YEAR AGO APRIL. AND SO CONSEQUENTLY, THE MEDIA IS ONE OF OUR BIG PROBLEMS DON'T GET THREE STARTED THON THAT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> JUDY BREWER, WERE MASSACHUSETTS. LET ME GET THE MIKE A LITTLE BIT. I WANT TO FOLLOW-UP ON WHAT MARY WAS SAYING BUT TAKE A LITTLE BITS OF A DIFFERENT {TAFKT}. I THINK THERE IS A REAL NICE PARTNERSHIP EMERGING BETWEEN FOLKS DOING RE{STEEJTSES} AND POLICY AND ADVOCACY. WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO BUILD THAT, PARTICULARLY A LOT OF THE MATERIALS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED BY SOME PEOPLE DOING THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, I THINK THAT ARE POST OWED AND USED BY A LOT OF US AT THE TRACE WEB SITE ARE PERFECT FOR GOING AND DOING THE ADVOCACY AT THE {SHAT} LEVEL AND ALSO AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LEVEL. AND I BEEN DOING A LOT IN MASSACHUSETTS ON SOME OF THESE ISSUE,, THE KIOSK STUFF, THE LONG MEETINGS YESTERDAY TRYING TO GET WEB STANDARDS FOR STATE AGENCIES WEB SITES. AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TAKING 504, ADA, SECTION 508, MENTIONING WHAT IS COMING DOWN THE PIPE WITH THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT WILL MEAN NOR STANDARD SETING AND THEN TAKING THE MATERIALS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT OUT ON VARIOUS SITES AND PUTTING THOSE IN HANDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO ADDRESS IT. WHAT I'M HOPING TO SEE MORE OF IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS MANY MORE PEOPLE FROM INDUSTRY PAYING ATTENTION TO THESE ISSUES EARLY ON, DESIGN PROCESS, AND THIS CONFERENCE IS A PER FACT OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT GOING BUT I {WIRBL} WE HAD TEN TIMES THE AMOUNT OF INDUSTRY REPRESENT TAX AS WE DO HERE. I THANK EVERYBODY WHO HAS SHOWED UP HERE AND PARTICIPATING BUT TO ME, THAT'S THE PART THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED. BUT, AT THIS POINT, I WOULD REALLY JUST CONGRATULATE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN DOING A SOME OF THE GOOD RE{SHEEJTSES} AND SAY THIS WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO USE THE GOOD PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THOSE FOLKS AND THE POLL THREE AND ADVOCACY FOLKS. >>ING {JOEING}, TWO QUICK COMMENTS ONE OF THEM IS I THINK IT IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE FROM INDUCE TRUE ON THE PANELS TODAY AND TOMORROW THAN THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY. TALKING ABOUT THESE ISSUE ARE AND ACCESSIBILITY. THAT IS ONLY AS WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO -- AS EVERYBODY, NOT JUST R N-THE POLICY PEOPLE, CONSUMER GROUP, EVERYBODY WHO HAS MADE THIS HAPPEN TO BUILD A PARTNERSHIP WITH INDUSTRY AND MOVE, FORWARD THAT WE WILL BE TABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. THE SECOND CHILDREN IS DON'T EVER LOOK TO OTHERS TO BE THE ONE TOSS SOLVE IF PROBLEMS AS MARY SAID, THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP AND AS JUDY HAS EMPHASIZED, THE PROGRESS WE HAS BEEN WHEN THE PARTNERSHIPS -- IF YOUR INDUSTRY IS GOOD EVENING GETTING INVOLVED, IT IS EVERYBODY PULLING TOGETHER THAT'S MAKING THE THESE THINGS HAPPEN. >> ONE THING TOO, EARLIER, I SAID SOME OVER US HAVE BEEN NIGHTING THESE BATTLES FOR 20 YEARS, FOR THE FIRST FIFTEEN YEAR, THE ONLY PEOPLE INDUSTRY WOULD SEND IS THEIR E E O PEOPLE, THEY NEVER SAW THEIR CEO EXCEPT HIS PEOPLE, NO POWER, EXPECTED TO KEEP THEIR MOUTH {SHVT} AND CLEAN UP THE MESSES CREATED THAT'S THE PEOPLE FOR THE FIRST FIFTEEN YEAR, FOR THE LAST FIVE YEAR YEARS {UX} WE BEEN GETTING DEAN SIGNERS AND R N D PEOPLE, WHICH ARE THE ONES WE NEED. ONE HEIGHT, WE NEED ONLY ONE PERSON FROM THE INDUSTRY, THAT DID THE C E {STHOFMENT} BECAUSE I KNOW TOO MANY DESIGNERS,E THEY NEVER LISTEN TO US. WE GOT DO GO TO TOP AND START DOWN. IF SOMEBODY LIKE BILL GATES GOT INTERESTED IN DISABILITY, WE WOULD NOT HAVE {FI} PROBLEM WITH CONVINCING IS REST TOP WORLD THAT THERE WAS A BUCK THERE SO EVERYBODY SHOULD FOLLOW. SO CONSEQUENTLY, AT LEAST NOW, WE'RE GETTING NAME WHO WILL HAVE AN IMPACT, IN 1919, I THENED PUT TOGETHER ONE OF THE FIRST NATIONAL CONFERENCES DEALING DAILY LIVING IN UNIVERSAL DESIGN, I GOT CALL FROM PEOPLE IN HUMAN RESOURCES AND MAJOR CORPORATIONS SAYING THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HAD NOT BEEN IN VIED EVIDENCE. >> YOU HAVE NO POWER, NO {HA} BILL TEE TO AFFECT ANYTHING EXCEPT TO CLEAN UP A MESS THAT YOUR BOSSES MAKE. SEND MY YOUR ENGINEER AND DESIGN ARE OR DON'T {SHENDZ} ME ANYTHING FROM YOUR DAMN COMPANYS AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM DIDN'T COME. I THINK IT STARTED {TRIND}. BUT I COME {MRENDZ} THE THREE PEOPLE WE HAVE HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE NEED PEOPLE WHO DO DESIGN AND RESEARCH. WE DO NOT NEED PEOPLE WHO APOLOGIZE. NEXT QUESTION. >> YES. I'M DAVE NELSON AND I'M A DEAF INDIVIDUAL IS AND IN CASE DID VISUAL PARTICIPANTS WANT TO KNOW WHY I HAVE A FEMALE VOICE. I WORK FOR AMTRAK AND I WANT TO MAKE TWO COMMENTS BEFORE I ASK OTHER QUESTION. FIRST, I WANT TO DEFEND D.C.. WHEN YOU GO OUT OF UNION STATION, IT IS SAFE. I LIVE NEAR THERE. AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET MUG MUGGED. SORRY, BUT I'M VERY DEFENSIVE ABOUT D.C.. SECONDLY, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE PANEL OF BUSINESSES, I AGREE BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND THE LAW FOR BUSINESSES ARE THERE TOO. LAWYERS FROM THE CORPORATION ARE SOME TIMES THE PROBLEM. THE {KRP} {RAX} MIGHT WANT TO DO IT, BUT, THE LAYERS MIGHT BE AFRAID OR ADVISE AGAINST IT. TO THE LAWYERS THE FROM THE CORPORATION ARE SITTING ON THE PANELS TOO OR SHOULD BE. NOW, ABOUT THE KIOSKS, RECENTLY, KIOSKS WERE INSTALLED ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHETHER THERE IS A VOICE OR AUDIO CONNECTED TO THOSE, I DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THAT PART OF IT ANY WAY. FOR THE NEW ONES, I'M WONDERING. I WONDER IF THERE IS ANYTHING OFF THE SHELF, ANY SOFTWARE THAT CAN BE A ADDED TO THOSE DURING {RINLTSES} KIOSK. >> -- CURRENT KIOSK. >> YES, CURRENT, AM T M'S ARE TOUGHER BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE HARD WIRED, ESPECIALLY THE HOLD ONE AND ENSOME NEWER ONE, THERE IS POINT {GRES} BEING MADE BUT KIOSKS CAN BE REPROGRAMED. WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO, WHAT'S REAL HE HARD THOUGH IS IF YOU WATCH THE TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF NEW ONES BEING CHURNED OUT THAT HAVE NO ASK DISEASE BILL TEE. I SAW ONE THE OTHER DAY DID--ACCIDENT {SES} BILL TEE. IT HELD BRAILLE ON A TOUCH {SKROON} KIOSK, NO VOICE OUTPUT. WHAT 0 ON EARTH IT WILL BRAILLE SAID, I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT SAID IT SAID THAT IS TOUCH SCREEN KIOSK, DON'T EVEN TRY. IS SO AGAIN, SIT PUTTING PRESSURE, AND INFORMATION A LOT OF THE PLACES ARE NOW STARTING TO LOOK TOWARD IT. MANY OF THEM DIDN'T KNOW AND HAD NO IDEA OF THE SOLUTIONS. WE HAVE TIME FOR TWO MORE QUESTIONS BUT I LIVED IN WASHINGTON FOR 20 YEARS, I LIFT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, THREE MONTHS BEFORE IT LEFT ACTION WOMAN WAS BEATEN TO DEATH 3 BLOCK FROM UNION STATION, SO DON'T GIVE ME THAT BULL SH IT. SO WATCH YOUR BUTTS IN THIS TOWN FOLKS. TWO MORE QUESTIONS AND WE ARE OUT OF HERE. >> MY NAME IS A BETSY, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL PROGRAM {TTS} FOR NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE {BLINLDZ}. I WANT TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT. I REALLY {PRERBL} ATE THIS CONFERENCE. I THINK IT {SAL} REALLY GOOD START AT SOME SOLID PARTNERSHIP. I THINK IN THE DESIGN SEAR AND TO SOME EXTENT, POLICY AREA, SOME GROWING PARTNERSHIPS IN BUSINESS COMMUNITY {SNEE} AND THE DISABILITY ADVOCACY COMMUNITY. ONE THING I WANT TO EMPHASIZE TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON DESIGN FACTORS AND A NUMBER OF YOU KNOW THIS ALREADY, THAT IT'S VERY CRITICAL TO CONSULT AND WORK WITH ORGANIZED CONSUMER ORGANIZATIONS. RATHER THAN SIMPLY INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE WHO HAPPEN TO HAVE A DISABILITY THAT YOU ARE WORKING WITH BECAUSE ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE HAD HISTORY OF BEING AN ADVOCACY GROUP AND WHO HAVE A WIDE SPECTRUM OF MEMBERSHIP HIP CAN BE OF TREMENDOUS ASSIST {ZMANS} KEEP CORPORATIONS AND DESIGNERS OUT OF TROUBLE AS WELL AS HELPING THEM MOVE IN THE DIRECTION THAT ARE HELP PULL TO THE MOST PEOPLE. SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP IN MIND THE ORGANIZED I HAD CONSUMER ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE DISABILITY MOVE. AS A RICH RESOURCES AND ALSO A NUMBER OF US ARE INVOLVED IN TECHNOLOGY-RELATED PRO {ZWREKT}S TOO SOMETIMES GOING AT IT IN SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT WAYS SUCH AS THE N F B VOICE NEWS LINE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND IT'S BEEN A GOOD CONFERENCE. >>> ONE FINAL QUESTION AND THEN, REMEMBER AT 5 O'CLOCK, YOU CAN CATCH ALL THESE FOLKS TO DEMONSTRATE HANDS ON. >> HI, I'M JIM BERRY AND I THINK THIS CONFERENCE IS GREAT. ONE COMPLAINT I HAVE ABOUT ALL CONFERENCES LIKE THIS IS THAT AFTER THEY ARE OVER, WHAT HAPPENS AND THE INFORMATION THAT WE COVER, WHERE DOES IT GO? HOW CAN WE DO SOMETHING TO PERPETUATE THIS AND GET THIS PUBLISHED IN TIMES OR NEWS WEEK SO THAT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T REACH ARE ABLE TO LEARN ABOUT THE STUFF THAT WE KNOW? I THEY THERE WILL {E} BE SOME A{GRS} SELF PROGRAM TO GET ALL THIS PUBLISHED SO THAT ALL THE {WOLD} CAN MAKE A LIFE BETTER FOR US. >> {AUZ} THE PROBLEM WITH THE NATIONAL MEDIA IS WE WANT NATIONAL COVERAGE, MAKE SECURE THE STONE GO {BLINLD}. YOU YOU YOU {HAP} YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED WHEN CHRISTOPHER READ. I GOTTEN MUCH MONTH METHODS YAE AS ANY LIVING HUMAN BEING. THE PROBLEM IS WHEN WE DO GET NATIONAL MEDIA, THEY GENERALLY GET IT WRONG. AND THAT MAKES ITS EVEN WORSE. AND EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, YOU CAN TURN ON THE TELEVISION CAST OR NEWSCAST AND {P} SIT BOUND DO {TA} WHEELCHAIR. I TOLD THOUSANDS OF JOURNALISTS BOUND TO A WHEELCHAIR, YOU BETTER BE TALKING ABOUT KING KEY SEX BECAUSE IT HAS NOTHING DO WITH DISBILL TEE, SO CONSEQUENCE ABOUTLY, LIT BE AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE MAIN TREATMENT AS WE SEND MORE OF OUR OWN PEOPLE TO JOURNALISM SCHOOL, THAT'S WHEN IT WILL CHANGE. LIKE THE UNBOMBER WERE TO START MAILING YOU PACKAGES WE WOULD GET GREAT COVERAGE, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THAT PROJECT. THE MEDIA IS HAS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ISSUES. >> ANOTHER AD FOR N C R {IX} OH GOD NCR. IN THE PAST, OVER THE PAST YEAR, I TALKED WITH HOUR BUSINESS PARTNER FROM MICROSOFT, WGBH AND TRACE, AND WE HAVE BEEN BANTERING AROUND THE POSSIBILITY OF CONDUCTING MAYBE SOME SATELLITE BROADCASTS WHICH I KNOW GREGG HAS DONE FOR FROM N T ID AT ROCHESTER INSTITUTE OF TECH MOLSON {ZPO} AND WGBH AND FLY {KRO} SOFT HAS PROBABLY DONE MORE SATELLITED EDUCATIONAL BROADCASTS THAN ANY OTHER COMPANY A I'M AWARE OF, MAYBE THAT IS AN AVENUE WE CAN EXPLORE AND LET UNIVERSITIES DOWN LINK THE BROADCAST. >> DECEMBER 5TH, HOWARD UNIVERSITY CALLED MEDIA INSIDE OUT WHICH DEALT ONE HOUR MAN {NEL} ON NEWS ON ADVERTISING IN PUBLIC RELATIONS AND I HAD THE BEST PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY THERE. AND YOU KNOW THAT MOST UNIVERSITIES SAID WE'RE NOT INTERESTED. >> MOMENT OF US HAVE BEEN THERE, AND HAVE DONE THAT. WE DAMN IT, WE NEARLY, EVERY TIME WE'RE TOLD TO DO SOMETHING, WE DONE IT, TRIED IT, IT IS SHOT LIKE WE BEEN SITTING ON OUR BUTTS FOR 20 YEARS OR HAVE WE FOLKS. >>> NO, YOU CAN'T LET FAILURE DICTATE THE FUTURE. >> LET THE VICTIM DIE A LITTLE BIT. DO YOU THINK THAT EVERYBODY OUT THERE HAS NOT THOUGHT ABOUT A SATELLITE TELEPHONE CONFERENCE. DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU'RE THE FIRST? THINK FOLKS. I KNOW OF TEN SATELLITE TELL CONFERENCES DONE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. >> I DON'T CARE IF IT IS TEN OR 50 BUT THE 41TH WORKS SO BE IT. >> I AGREE WITH YOU TOTALLY. IT IS NOT NEW. LET'S KEEP TRYING DO IT, YES. BUT IT'S LIKE EVERY CONFERENCE I GO TO LIKE THIS, THEY REINVENT THE WHEEL AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, AS THOUGH WE DISABLED FOLKS WERE TOO DAM DUMB TO COME {WUP} THE IDEA ON OUR OWN. WE WILL KEEP TRYING DO IT BUT SIT NOT LIKE WE HAVE NOT DONE IT BEFORE AND IT IS THE FIRST TIME. THAT {MAFERP} WHAT I GET {FARD} OF GOING TO {KOFERNINGTS} AND HEARING HAVE YEAR SOME KID GETS DISSTABLE AND A PARENTS STANDS UP AND SAVE THE ENTIRE DISABILITY MOVEMENT BECAUSE WE WERE TOO IGNORE {RANLTSES}. THAT'S USUALLY THE WAY IT GOES. PEOPLE WILL WALK, DEAF ARE GOING TO HEAR HEAR, BLIND WILL SEE. I BEEN HEARING THIS EVERY YEAR FOR 20 YEARS R BUT, WHO KNOW,, 5 0'CLOCK, THEY LO DO A DEMONSTRATION DOWN AT THE BALLROOM, BE THERE. THANK YOU. >> THE ACCESSIBLE WORLD WESTBOUND SITE IS ALSO A PLACE WHERE MANY OF US ARE ALL GATHERING THE INFORMATION FROM THIS CONFERENCE WILL ALL BE. SO AFTER THE CONFERENCE, ENDS THIS INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE SO INDUSTRIES CAN TALK TO COLLEAGUE {ZS} SAY, WELL, HERE'S A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN SEE AND LEARN ABOUT WHAT YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO GO AND PARTICIPATE DIRECTLY IN. {6}. >> OKAY, ANOTHER ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR OUR PANELISTS. BUT BEFORE YOU GO, WE DO HAVE TIME FOR OTHER QUICK BREAK BUT I HAVE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE, TOMORROW, FOUR TRACT ARE, THREE OF TO FOUR WILL BE UPSTAIRS. I WILL TELL YOU NOW WHERE THEY WILL BE. WE WILL HAVE SIGN AGE IN THE LOBBY AS WELL. TECHNICAL RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT WILL BE UPSTAIRS IN 4 A B AND C -- I'M SORRY, TECHNICAL RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, 4 A B C {URX} THAT'S ON THE SECOND FLOOR. POLICY 6-A, B AND C. ALSO ON THE SECOND FLOOR. AND BUSINESS: 5-A AND B, SECOND FLOOR. AND THE PUBLIC SECTOR WILL BE IN 1-B AND C WHICH IS ON THE FIRST FLOOR RIGHT TO THE RIGHT OF THE ELEVATORS DOWN HERE. SIGN AGE TO DIRECT YOU. I WANTED EVERY ONE TO KNOW WHERE YOU WILL BE MEETING TOMORROW BEFORE YOU GO AND TAKE A BREAK. COME BACK IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES AND WE WILL START ON OUR NEXT PANEL. WE'RE RETURNING RUN AGO LITTLE LATE. SO TRY TO GET BACK IN TEN.